Publisher’s Note: We’ve covered the US Empire’s secret surveillance program for years, and the courageous whistleblowers who’ve brought these programs to the world’s attention at great personal and professional expense. Popular podcaster Joe Rogan, who just decamped from a collapsing California and is now ensconced with his family in Austin, Texas, dives deep in this new interview with the self-effacing but brilliant Edward Snowden. Enjoy, and take courage that Humans with conscience can still influence the course of world events for the better. Free Vermont!