Publisher’s Note: The Madness Of Crowds author and Spectator editor Douglas Murray talks with Rebel Wisdom and the Trigger blokes about trust, truth and media in the time of the COVID, including: the state of “identity politics,” Silicon Valley censorship, the PRC/West geopolitical relationship, and where to from here. Thoughtful discussions. We’d challenge Mr. Murray on his dismissal of the 5G “conspiracy theory” as irrational (just read the public health experts and scientific papers) and his assertion that China is exclusively to blame for the COVID (just consider the long history of US/China viral “gain of functioning” engineering), but worth a listen, especially if you fancy yourself “woke.”